well you ol dodger china is a gentleman so its natural that he thanks the older gentlemen first and it is true as you say some rules are necessary like starting at the same time as others …sorta your eye sight must be playn up for did i not say china has been groomed by the best from the floaters group or did you conveniently omit that in your reply and add your own misleading reply and in conclusion TGFS sailing section does not charge we ask for donations for SAVE THE GREEN TREE FROG ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….just sayn